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Post by beardedbob on Apr 7, 2008 8:11:10 GMT -5
Well I think I did it... I shoulda listened to my "OLDER" brother's advice a long time ago and taken proper rest periods between exercise days.. Now I hurt from my neck to my feet. I walk like Quasimoto.. so I'm in a long rest period now... I thought it was from just too much fishing, but this is too much... I had chopped down some small trees and dug out 10 roots so that may have hurt too...I got the "EL KABONG"effect sometimes when the ax hit the stumps.. shook my whole little body.. But the bottom line is.. after I heal, I will take the ELDER's advice and rest .. I learned my lesson this time
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Post by al on Apr 7, 2008 17:08:20 GMT -5
Your body's just jolted from the unusual exercise. You'll be fine (as someone as nutty as you can be) in a few days.
Don't feel too bad. You're OLDER brother's right shoulder & bicep, left tricep, lower back, and groin have been destroyed by those last two deadlifts in last Sunday's meet. Was it worth it? F**k yea!
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Post by jasony on Apr 7, 2008 21:04:33 GMT -5
Holy nuts!!! Brothers??? LOL---Lord help an OKIE:))
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Post by beardedbob on Apr 8, 2008 6:13:40 GMT -5
Al..I just didn't think I'd pull anything with my kind of workout..but guess I just pushed it too far with not enough rest.. I wanted to get into the 'yak this week and start doing some long runs in search of stripers, but may have to wait..season opens 4/15, but can catch and release now( if I can find them).. The blues should be in in about one month..so I GOTTA heal soon.. miss those BLUEFISH CURLS.. Jason.. yup.. brothers...wish I had his discipline and drive...I musta got some mutant genes..
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Post by koneill on Apr 20, 2008 19:57:39 GMT -5
Are you dealing with soreness or pain? From personal experience, I've discovered how a lot of our aches and pains alleged to be "aging" are often the result of years of training almost exclusively with so-called sagital plane movement - the sagital plane is movements done in front and backward directions. Those movements lead to muscular imbalances and also disrupt the way the nervous system is organized to optimally work.
In my experience and that of quite a few past-50 and well past-50 folks I train, those annoying morning lower back pains generally go away with six workouts doing high to low, horizontal, and low to high chops with tubing or cables. Shoulders are tricker due to their anatomical complexity, while a lot of the time protracting the shoulders is the culprit- you see it in lat pull downs all the time.
any of JC Santana's books are great references for going to multiplanar training; so is Vern Gambetta's Athletic Development. And Scott Abel's work specifically adapts and more newer training modalities for strength and muscular development.
The importance of such training is not just rehabilitation of injuries. Once healed, then we want to prevent re-injury, maintaining our successes. Ironically, the old timer bodybuilders and strong men did this kind of training. I think as bodybuilding became specialized, in part due to steroids, and in part due to Nautilus introducing machines in the 70s, the art of all around development was in a large manner lost. thanks to functional training - as progressive resistance strength work - it's come back and more, but not in bodybuilding yet - but in amateur and professional sports.
Watch Iron Man over the next few months for some articles of mine they'll be publishing. The June issue carries a feature on my old buddy Frank Zane, how he peaked at 65 last year, and his Zane Integrated Method of holistic training. July & August issues will carry a two part article interviewing and introducing the breakthrough training methods of Scott Abel. Those should go a long way in introducing a more all around approach to training.
Talked with Bill Pearl again a few weeks ago - about his forthcoming 1,000 page, 2 volume history of strongmen. Bill also underscored the deficiency of holistic approaches to training and urged me to throw my hat into the ring with more writing on the matter.
best regards, fellow lifters!
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Post by al on Apr 21, 2008 16:26:22 GMT -5
I can't wait to read the Zane article. He still looks phenomenal. Also glad we'll finally get a good look at Abel's method without having to spring for the course.
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Post by wickedwillie on Jun 6, 2008 9:15:13 GMT -5
In my experience and that of quite a few past-50 and well past-50 folks I train, those annoying morning lower back pains generally go away with six workouts doing high to low, horizontal, and low to high chops with tubing or cables. Shoulders are tricker due to their anatomical complexity, while a lot of the time protracting the shoulders is the culprit- you see it in lat pull downs all the time. Please tell me more...I've recently developed sore shoulders, almost overnight. In my conversations with Mike Graham, he has advised eliminating pull downs and chins. Low back pain is nearly a constant with me...due to a physical condition. Could I have a few more details and opinions, please? Wicked
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Post by al on Jun 6, 2008 13:57:24 GMT -5
Gee, Willie, I wish I could add to the advice we've already been over in Laree's rehab/mobility section, but those old standbys work pretty much for me.
Besides the halting deadlifts and good mornings you recommended when I hurt my lower back last summer, I've relied very heavily on reverse hypers for both rehab and prehab.
For shoulders, the IYTWL's, Cuban presses, internal/external rotations, and hanging scapula retractions are my staples.
Ken only joins us sporadically. You might want to PM him from IOL. He goes by Budhi there.
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